Mayflower District Court
#state-of-mayflower-v-ontago23
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krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-02-20 01:35 a.m.@Toby
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Toby 2025-02-20 05:50 a.m.@dero Hi!
Toby 2025-02-20 05:51 a.m.
I'll rule on PC later today
TobyI'll rule on PC later today
dero 2025-02-20 06:49 a.m.
hi thx
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-02-20 04:44 p.m.
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krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-02-20 04:52 p.m.
Updated rules (courtesy notice)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dB37ftVVx-hhytWHr-KYJys6D7jhocu2/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dB37ftVVx-hhytWHr-KYJys6D7jhocu2/view?usp=sharing
Toby 2025-02-20 06:16 p.m.@dero Ok, so I've established that there is sufficient probable cause to proceed
Toby 2025-02-20 06:17 p.m.@š✰ Hello Mr. Sawyeriez, is the defendant waiving summons?
Toby
š✰ 2025-02-20 06:48 p.m.
Yes, we waive summons. @Ontago
krabzatonin ᴏᴍUpdated rules (courtesy notice) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dB37ftVVx-hhytWHr-KYJys6D7jhocu2/view?usp=sharing
dero 2025-02-20 06:50 p.m.
Thanks
Tobydero 2025-02-20 06:50 p.m.
Outstanding
Toby 2025-02-20 09:28 p.m.
Ok
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š✰Toby 2025-02-20 09:29 p.m.@Ontago can you please confirm this
Ontago 2025-02-20 09:29 p.m.
I confirm
Toby 2025-02-20 09:29 p.m.
Ok
Toby 2025-02-20 09:30 p.m.
Let the record reflect that the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty to count one: second-degree murder(edited)
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clerkFlow Bot2025-02-20 09:30 p.m. Discovery will be taken care of separately during the pretrial period.
Pre-trial motions will beaccepted until Friday, February 28, 2025 at 9:30 p.m. or 4 months ago .
The pre-trial period willend on Sunday, March 2, 2025 at 9:30 p.m. or 4 months ago .
Pretrial Schedule
Pre-trial motions will be
The pre-trial period will
Toby 2025-02-20 09:31 p.m.@dero @š✰
Toby 2025-02-20 09:31 p.m.
In other words discovery is open
dero 2025-02-20 10:41 p.m.
Thank you. I will submit my discovery in a timely manner. Likely tomorrow.
Toby 2025-02-21 11:31 a.m.
No worries
dero 2025-02-22 10:32 a.m.GOVERNMENT'S SUBMISSION OF DISCOVERY AND DISCLOSURES
CC:@Toby @krabz @š✰ @Ontago
dero 2025-02-22 10:33 a.m.
dero 2025-02-22 10:33 a.m.
Cant attach files here so that may just have to do
Toby 2025-02-22 10:38 a.m.
Posted it for you
dero 2025-02-22 10:38 a.m.
Thank you
deroCant attach files here so that may just have to do
krabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-02-22 11:53 a.m.
Oops will fix
š✰ 2025-02-22 04:20 p.m.Defense's Discovery
cc: @Toby @krabz @dero
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š✰dero 2025-02-22 09:32 p.m.
You didn't really need to include the state code of justified homicide
dero 2025-02-22 09:32 p.m.
thats self authenticating material
dero 2025-02-22 09:33 p.m.
Not that serious but it's a bit confusing for me if you start referring to exhibits of the state code at trial
deroYou didn't really need to include the state code of justified homicide
š✰ 2025-02-23 10:15 a.m.
I know, when are you available for trial?
Toby 2025-02-24 05:29 p.m.@š✰ @dero Are we due to make anymore submissions?
Tobydero 2025-02-24 05:36 p.m.
I am not
Tobyš✰ 2025-02-24 07:07 p.m.
Nothing from the Defense
Toby 2025-02-24 07:07 p.m.
Ok, let's schedule trial
š✰ 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
We can honestly get it done today, if we’re all down
Toby 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
I'm going to create a chambers GC as I will be sending a when2meet link that I dont want the public getting access to
š✰We can honestly get it done today, if we’re all down
Toby 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
Can't
Toby 2025-02-24 07:09 p.m.@dero accept friend request please
TobyI'm going to create a chambers GC as I will be sending a when2meet link that I dont want the public getting access to
dero 2025-02-24 08:19 p.m.
what is a when2meet link
dero 2025-02-24 08:19 p.m.
lol
Ontago 2025-02-24 11:22 p.m.
Will the trial be held in-game?
derowhat is a when2meet link
Toby 2025-02-25 02:12 a.m.
Easier way to schedule trial
Tobydero 2025-02-25 02:38 p.m.
Accepted btw
Toby 2025-02-25 06:54 p.m.
Ok great
dero 2025-02-26 11:51 a.m.@Toby @š✰ hey my witness and I are available for trial today
deroš✰ 2025-02-26 11:54 a.m.
What time?
Toby 2025-02-26 11:58 a.m.
Yes, what defence counsel said
Toby 2025-02-26 02:00 p.m.@dero
Tobydero 2025-02-26 02:07 p.m.
Well, I personally can appear anytime today
dero 2025-02-26 02:07 p.m.
but I'm unsure what exact time the witness can appear
dero 2025-02-26 02:08 p.m.
He just said "today" but wont reply when I ask what time
deroHe just said "today" but wont reply when I ask what time
Toby 2025-02-26 02:16 p.m.
Ok, well please ensure he gives a time if we want trial to go ahead today. It can't be past 7 PM EST
TobyOk, well please ensure he gives a time if we want trial to go ahead today. It can't be past 7 PM EST
dero 2025-02-26 02:19 p.m.
Ok I got an answer
dero 2025-02-26 02:19 p.m.
he says anytime within the next 5 hours
dero 2025-02-26 02:21 p.m.@š✰ @Toby we all able to do it within the next 5 hours?
deroš✰ 2025-02-26 02:51 p.m.
7 pm EST? 12 pm GMT?
š✰ 2025-02-26 02:51 p.m.
If so, yeah I’m down
š✰7 pm EST? 12 pm GMT?
dero 2025-02-26 02:52 p.m.
Thats beyond 5 hours though
dero 2025-02-26 02:52 p.m.
my witness wont make it
deroThats beyond 5 hours though
š✰ 2025-02-26 02:52 p.m.
4 pm EST?
š✰4 pm EST?
dero 2025-02-26 02:52 p.m.
Yeah thats hould work
š✰4 pm EST?
dero 2025-02-26 02:58 p.m.
Ok yes that works for my witness
dero 2025-02-26 02:58 p.m.@Toby How is 4 PM EST for u
deroToby 2025-02-26 03:13 p.m.
Yeah
Toby 2025-02-26 03:14 p.m.
That works
Toby 2025-02-26 03:33 p.m.@dero @š✰ can we do now?
Toby 2025-02-26 03:33 p.m.
30 mins early
Tobydero 2025-02-26 03:35 p.m.
sure I suppose it will be time for my witness by 4 pm
derosure I suppose it will be time for my witness by 4 pm
Toby 2025-02-26 03:36 p.m.
What
TobyWhat
dero 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.
my witness says he will show up at 4 pm
dero 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.
if we start early rn then by the time we all make it to the courtroom and get through openings it will probably be 4 pm
Toby 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.
ok, well I'm joining now
dero 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.
yes
dero 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.@š✰ yea?
Tobyok, well I'm joining now
š✰ 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.
Mhm
Toby 2025-02-26 03:37 p.m.
great
dero 2025-02-26 03:38 p.m.
Biggest server or what
dero 2025-02-26 03:38 p.m.@Toby
Toby 2025-02-26 03:39 p.m.
second
Toby 2025-02-26 03:39 p.m.
at the supreme court building
dero 2025-02-26 03:39 p.m.
Why not the uh
dero 2025-02-26 03:39 p.m.
LC district court
Toby 2025-02-26 03:40 p.m.
I mean we can
dero 2025-02-26 03:40 p.m.
I feel liek thats more suitable
Toby 2025-02-26 03:44 p.m.
@
Toby 2025-02-26 03:45 p.m.@dero Can you try and get some sheriffs in-game please
Tobydero 2025-02-26 03:45 p.m.
Im bringing a trooper
deroIm bringing a trooper
Toby 2025-02-26 03:45 p.m.
Perfect
š✰ 2025-02-26 03:46 p.m.
Defense present
Toby 2025-02-26 03:55 p.m.@dero Where are you
dero 2025-02-26 03:55 p.m.
went ot go get on team
dero 2025-02-26 03:55 p.m.
coming back rn
Toby 2025-02-26 03:55 p.m.
ok
Toby 2025-02-26 04:09 p.m.
Ok great and we're dead
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:09 p.m.@dero Your witness
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:09 p.m.
Just shot up
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:09 p.m.
the courthouse alongside another individual
Toby 2025-02-26 04:09 p.m.
WAS THAT THE WITNESS?
TobyWAS THAT THE WITNESS?
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:10 p.m.
Not the bald one, the one in the blue shirt
Toby 2025-02-26 04:10 p.m.
Did you clip it
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:10 p.m.
No sadly, but I'll be a bit returning to the courthouse. Have no clue where I'm at
Toby 2025-02-26 04:11 p.m.@dero I hope that wasn't your witness
Tobydero 2025-02-26 04:14 p.m.
No
dero 2025-02-26 04:14 p.m.
Me and the witness are here
š✰dero 2025-02-26 04:14 p.m.
THat was not my witness
dero 2025-02-26 04:14 p.m.
My witness is in a black suit
dero 2025-02-26 04:15 p.m.
WHy would the witness come shoot up the proceeding designed to seek justice against his alleged killer
Toby 2025-02-26 04:16 p.m.@š✰ Everyone is here, waiting on you now
Tobyš✰ 2025-02-26 04:16 p.m.
Omw, was getting shot at
Toby 2025-02-26 04:16 p.m.
ok
dero 2025-02-26 04:25 p.m.
dero 2025-02-26 04:29 p.m.@k
dero 2025-02-26 04:29 p.m.@k
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:33 p.m.@Toby We object for the following and move to suppress State's Exhibit A:
Within Local Rules: District for Clark County Rule 8(2), exhibits must "include links exclusively from Medal, YouTube, or Streamable. Videos from other platforms or inaccessible links will not be accepted". Alongside, Chief Judge AlbertWellesley of the Mayflower District Court stated as of January 23th, 2025 at 2:31 pm EST, that "The court has agreed to adopt into its local rules, that only three websites hosting a video or clip may be used in a probable cause affidavit. These are: YOUTUBE, MEDAL and STREAMABLE. No other website is permitted. We will not also permit any link that cannot be accessed by the judges (they must be public or made accessible to select users by way of link sharing). The rule is due to take effect today".
Mayfl. R. Evid. 11(2) requires that "[a]ll documents, data, records, videos, photographs or other recordings to be used by any party must be authenticated, such that they are proven to be genuine in its content". State's Exhibit A shows a video (which requires to be downloaded) of a roblox screen, with no username present. Upon joining Clark County, Mayflower, everyone's username is present at the top right of the screen. There's no way the Defense, yet alone this court can identify who's recording this clip. The witness can testify all they want that it's their video, but there is no legitimate proof that proves this is the witness's video. No username is present to show who's recording.
To add to Mayfl. R. Evid. 11(2), the State only asked if the video is accurate. Not if the witness owned the video, or was visibly present within the video.
Within Local Rules: District for Clark County Rule 8(2), exhibits must "include links exclusively from Medal, YouTube, or Streamable. Videos from other platforms or inaccessible links will not be accepted". Alongside, Chief Judge AlbertWellesley of the Mayflower District Court stated as of January 23th, 2025 at 2:31 pm EST, that "The court has agreed to adopt into its local rules, that only three websites hosting a video or clip may be used in a probable cause affidavit. These are: YOUTUBE, MEDAL and STREAMABLE. No other website is permitted. We will not also permit any link that cannot be accessed by the judges (they must be public or made accessible to select users by way of link sharing). The rule is due to take effect today".
Mayfl. R. Evid. 11(2) requires that "[a]ll documents, data, records, videos, photographs or other recordings to be used by any party must be authenticated, such that they are proven to be genuine in its content". State's Exhibit A shows a video (which requires to be downloaded) of a roblox screen, with no username present. Upon joining Clark County, Mayflower, everyone's username is present at the top right of the screen. There's no way the Defense, yet alone this court can identify who's recording this clip. The witness can testify all they want that it's their video, but there is no legitimate proof that proves this is the witness's video. No username is present to show who's recording.
To add to Mayfl. R. Evid. 11(2), the State only asked if the video is accurate. Not if the witness owned the video, or was visibly present within the video.
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:33 p.m.cc: @dero
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:34 p.m.
This is a mp4, not a youtube, medal, nor streamable link^
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:34 p.m.
dero 2025-02-26 04:36 p.m.
The rule is for warrants and the evidence is in file form so the accepted links rule does not apply. Also, authenticating the video just requires a present witness to testify that the video is accurate to how he remembers it
dero 2025-02-26 04:36 p.m.
I am quite literally authenticating it and you are objecting
dero 2025-02-26 04:37 p.m.
The proof that this is his video is his testimony under the penalties of perjury
dero 2025-02-26 04:37 p.m.
and if we're really doing that then his username pops up on the bottom saying "KAOVIC has died"
dero 2025-02-26 04:37 p.m.
right as he died
dero 2025-02-26 04:37 p.m.
and no the other death message was not at the same time
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
Yet you're doing that after the fact
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
not before
dero 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
..>?
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
whole purpose of authenticate
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
-_-
dero 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
What does that even mean
dero 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
authentication is done at trial dude
dero 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
its a trial rule
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
exactly
dero 2025-02-26 04:38 p.m.
Ok... so whats the problem
Toby 2025-02-26 04:48 p.m.
omfg
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:48 p.m.
Can we do this via discord
Toby 2025-02-26 04:49 p.m.@dero Any objection?
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:49 p.m.
Died twice and not getting anywhere
Toby 2025-02-26 04:49 p.m.
I'm inclined to move this to discord
Toby 2025-02-26 04:50 p.m.@dero Do you have any objections
Toby 2025-02-26 04:50 p.m.@dero @š✰ Lets try one more time at the SC building
Toby 2025-02-26 04:50 p.m.
since its more secure
š✰Can we do this via discord
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.
I have to go too, this has gone longer than expected
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.
I can finish my questions via discord
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.
Alongside, I'll be present for 10 minutes before I go
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.
Potentially less
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.@dero @Toby
dero 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.
Im fine with discord
Toby 2025-02-26 04:51 p.m.
Ok discord it is
Toby used /add
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-26 04:52 p.m. @Toby has added @k to the case channel.
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Toby 2025-02-26 04:52 p.m.@k You reamin under oath
Toby 2025-02-26 04:52 p.m.
*remain
k 2025-02-26 04:52 p.m.
I understand
kI understand
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:52 p.m.
Okay back to my question. When you entered the driver side of the police vehicle, where was the Defendant?
k 2025-02-26 04:53 p.m.
When I entered the drivers seat, Ontago23 entered the passenger seat.
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:53 p.m.
When you were driving to the right (as you stated in game), where the Defendant then?
k 2025-02-26 04:54 p.m.
Ontago exited the passenger seat, and was stood at the middle-right side of the vehicle when I started driving.
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:56 p.m.
I’d like you to see State’s Exhibit A at 0:05
š✰ 2025-02-26 04:56 p.m.
I’ll screenshot it for you
k 2025-02-26 04:57 p.m.
i have a better version if you don't mind
ki have a better version if you don't mind
š✰ 2025-02-26 05:01 p.m.
Mhm, upon driving to the right, was the defendant visible on the right side of the vehicle?
k 2025-02-26 05:02 p.m.
Yes, but not in the path of the vehicle.
Toby 2025-02-26 05:04 p.m.@š✰ Lets keep this snappy please
kYes, but not in the path of the vehicle.
š✰ 2025-02-26 05:07 p.m.
I didn’t ask if they were within the path of the vehicle. I asked if they were visible on the right side of the vehicle
k 2025-02-26 05:07 p.m.
Then yes, the defendant was visible.
Tobyk 2025-02-26 05:10 p.m.
Your Honor, respectfully, is he allowed to take this long?
Toby 2025-02-26 05:11 p.m.
It's only been a few minutes, if it goes past 5 then I'll interject
TobyIt's only been a few minutes, if it goes past 5 then I'll interject
š✰ 2025-02-26 05:12 p.m.
I’m actively moving around, my apologies
š✰ 2025-02-26 05:12 p.m.
I have no questions at this time @Toby
Toby 2025-02-26 05:12 p.m.
Ok cool
Toby 2025-02-26 05:12 p.m.@dero Anything from you?
Tobydero 2025-02-26 05:15 p.m.
No
Toby 2025-02-26 05:16 p.m.
OK
Toby 2025-02-26 05:16 p.m.@dero Is there any other witnesses?
Toby 2025-02-26 05:17 p.m.
We can adjourn if none are available right now
Tobydero 2025-02-26 05:17 p.m.
No state is done with its witnesses
Toby 2025-02-26 05:17 p.m.
ok
Toby 2025-02-26 05:17 p.m.
Are you resting your case-in-chief?
TobyAre you resting your case-in-chief?
dero 2025-02-26 05:19 p.m.
yes
Toby 2025-02-26 05:21 p.m.
Ok
Toby 2025-02-26 05:21 p.m.@š✰ Your turn to present your case-in-chief
Tobyš✰ 2025-02-26 05:22 p.m.
We yield
Toby 2025-02-26 05:23 p.m.
Ok
Toby 2025-02-26 05:23 p.m.@dero Closing?
dero 2025-02-26 05:25 p.m.
On the date of February 3rd, 2025, the defendant Ontago23 was spawning in a police vehicle at the Mayflower State Police Headquarters which is stationed not far beyond the Mersea Bridge. Kaovic is a citizen and entered the passenger seat and then the Defendant exited the vehicle to force him out of the passenger seat. Once the Defendant exited the vehicle, Kaovic jumped into the driver seat and attempted to drive away which was when the Defendant jumped near the vehicle and shot Kaovic through the windshield. This is no self-defense case because the Defendant not only put himself in the way of the vehicle but also did not take damages from the vehicle and therefore the vehicle, or Kaovic, was not an immediate threat. Lethal force is not supposed to be some ready option, they need to be a last resort. In this case, the Defendant looked for a reason to use force and did eventually use force unlawfully. The Defendant is guilty.
dero 2025-02-26 05:25 p.m.@Toby @š✰
š✰ 2025-02-26 05:31 p.m.
Throughout trial, state has failed to meet the requirements of Second Degree Murder. State has allege that the Defendant shot the Victim but did not prove the Defendant intentionally killed the victim with intent to kill or commit great bodily harm . Only alleged the Victim was shot by the Defendant.
We also acknowledge the victim did not identify the Defendant directly. But identified the Defendant as “Officer”, numerous times.
Beyond a reasonable doubt, this court must find the Defendantnot guilty of count one.
We also acknowledge the victim did not identify the Defendant directly. But identified the Defendant as “Officer”, numerous times.
Beyond a reasonable doubt, this court must find the Defendant
š✰ 2025-02-26 05:32 p.m.@Toby
Toby 2025-02-26 05:34 p.m.
Thank you both
Toby 2025-02-26 05:35 p.m.
I'm going to be extremely busy between now and Tuesday, so please allow till Friday for a ruling to be issued
Toby 2025-02-26 05:35 p.m.
We are now adjourned
dero 2025-02-26 05:35 p.m.
All good
Toby 2025-02-27 03:35 p.m.RULING ON THE CRIMINAL MATTER OF CR-0063-25
CC:@š✰ @dero @Ontago
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVkaKLakjmrGvsfOj6eB6bJrxIBfnJhw/view?usp=sharing
CC:
Toby 2025-02-27 03:36 p.m.
I managed to find time today
Toby 2025-02-27 03:36 p.m.
so no need to wait!
Toby 2025-02-27 03:38 p.m.
When are we available for a sentencing hearing
TobyWhen are we available for a sentencing hearing
Ontago 2025-02-27 03:46 p.m.
After 5
TobyWhen are we available for a sentencing hearing
dero 2025-02-27 03:48 p.m.
today whenever u guys are
Toby 2025-02-27 04:20 p.m.
Ok, do we prefer in-game or over discord?
Toby 2025-02-27 04:21 p.m.@dero @Ontago @š✰
BotclerkFlowClick to see attachment.
Toby 2025-02-27 04:22 p.m.@Prothonotary's Office Please ensure that this is attached to the Trello above: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IVkaKLakjmrGvsfOj6eB6bJrxIBfnJhw/view?usp=sharing
Ontago 2025-02-27 04:48 p.m.
Not like after 6*
Ontago 2025-02-27 04:48 p.m.
More like*
OntagoNot like after 6*
Toby 2025-02-27 04:48 p.m.
It's ok your attorney can be there on your behalf
dero 2025-02-27 05:56 p.m.@Toby hey who is the supervising DCJ for this case
deroToby 2025-02-27 06:11 p.m.
Krabz I think, but the ruling has been reviewed by a DCJ
TobyKrabz I think, but the ruling has been reviewed by a DCJ
dero 2025-02-27 06:13 p.m.
If u wouldnt mind could I get a copy of the ruling with a DCJ signing off
dero 2025-02-27 06:14 p.m.
like under or next to your signature
Toby 2025-02-27 06:14 p.m.
Yeah sure
dero 2025-02-27 06:16 p.m.
thx
dero 2025-02-27 06:18 p.m.@Toby actually just a pic of the dcj saying its good would work
dero 2025-02-27 06:18 p.m.
theres just been a complication thats why i need this sorry
Tobykrabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-02-27 06:34 p.m.
dero 2025-02-27 06:34 p.m.
Thx
Toby 2025-03-03 07:08 a.m.@dero @š✰ @Ontago When are we available for a setencing hearing
Tobydero 2025-03-03 07:30 a.m.
today after like 6:30
derotoday after like 6:30
Toby 2025-03-03 07:55 a.m.
yeah no can do
Toby 2025-03-03 07:55 a.m.
We'll have to schedule it for either Tuesday or after
Toby 2025-03-05 06:04 a.m.@dero @š✰
Toby 2025-03-05 06:05 a.m.@š✰ if you can't respond and give availability i will appoint a public defender
Tobydero 2025-03-05 06:34 a.m.
today after 6:30
Tobyš✰ 2025-03-05 10:23 a.m.
Can do today around 7 pm est
Toby 2025-03-05 11:04 a.m.
Ok, not sure if I can do that. What if we start now and do it over discord? @š✰ @dero
TobyOk, not sure if I can do that. What if we start now and do it over discord? @š✰ @dero
š✰ 2025-03-05 11:55 a.m.
We can but I won’t respond at certain times due to classes
Toby 2025-03-05 12:22 p.m.
Ok
Toby 2025-03-05 12:22 p.m.
We'll wait deros response
TobyWe'll wait deros response
dero 2025-03-05 12:32 p.m.
ya im down for that
Toby 2025-03-05 07:35 p.m.
Ok cool
Toby 2025-03-05 07:35 p.m.
Lets begin
Toby 2025-03-05 07:36 p.m.@dero @š✰ Do you wish to give 1 argument each with the inclusion of your sentencing recommendation
Toby 2025-03-05 07:36 p.m.
with the state going first
Tobydero 2025-03-05 08:28 p.m.
Yes
dero 2025-03-05 08:31 p.m.
The law enforcement officers are supposed to be responsible with their weapons and power alike. This is a special case where a police officer did not abide by the relevant statutes dictating lethal force. This case must be punished to the highest degree possible and therefore the government recommends max sentence .
š✰ 2025-03-06 11:57 a.m.
We’d recommend a month probation and LETI remediation training regarding firearm usage. As this is a first offense,
Toby 2025-03-06 10:06 p.m.
Thank you both
Toby 2025-03-06 10:06 p.m.
A sentencing order shall be in tomorrow
TobyToby 2025-03-07 03:54 p.m.@honkhonk
Toby 2025-03-07 04:34 p.m.@dero @š✰ @Ontago
š✰ 2025-03-08 01:39 a.m.
Notice of Appeal @Toby
š✰Notice of Appeal @Toby
Toby 2025-03-08 04:18 a.m.
Paper please
TobyPaper please
Toby 2025-03-13 03:57 p.m.
dero 2025-03-13 04:13 p.m.
Thank you supreme court
Toby 2025-03-13 05:54 p.m.@Ontago You have been sentenced
TobyToby 2025-03-14 08:58 a.m.@Prothonotary's Office pleasr attach this to the trello pinned in the channel
Toby 2025-03-14 08:59 a.m.
And the judgement
Tobykrabzatonin ᴏᴍ 2025-03-25 06:36 p.m.
No
Toby 2025-03-31 11:47 a.m.@krabz @shah @Kezzera please archive
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